…and it’s a continuation of the third video with some of the same footage as the third, but with added context.

The star of this show is Dr. Savita Ginde, who is Vice President and Medical Director at Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains. Ginde was in the third video making the damning statement that “I think a per-item thing works a little better, just because we can see how much we can get out of it.” In this installment she goes further. There is a lengthy discussion with the Center for Medical Progress operatives posing as buyers of fetal tissue in which Ginde clearly knows what is being discussed is illegal and is intent on framing the discussion around building a program in which Planned Parenthood maximizes its revenue from the sale of fetal body parts while maintaining deniability of what they’re doing.

An issue discussed is the “quality” of the abortions performed by PPRM with respect to the preservation of the body parts the buyers would want. Ginde says her facility performs three to seven abortions of second-trimester fetuses per week, and assesses the number of “intact” fetal specimens among that number as 10 percent or less. “Sometimes, if we get, if someone delivers before we get to see them for a procedure, then we are intact,” she says.

Which could be legally problematic. Since PPRM does not use digoxin or other feticide in its 2nd trimester procedures, any intact deliveries before an abortion are potentially born-alive infants under federal law (1 USC 8).

There is more. Ginde discusses the need to “improve” PPRM’s procedures in order to increase the volume of their sales in body parts. “We’d have to do a little bit of training with the providers or something to make sure that they don’t crush” fetal organs during 2nd trimester abortions, she says in the video.

There is an extensive back-and-forth between Ginde and the buyers over the importance of standardizing, to some extent, Planned Parenthood’s procedures for selling body parts, and while Ginde calls it difficult because the affiliates are “all so different,” she agrees something should be done on that score – most notably casting the procurement of the body parts and their sale as “research” and having everyone on the same page because otherwise “If you have someone in a really anti state who’s going to be doing this for you, they’re probably going to get caught.”