The people in power are not just your elected officials; it’s also an ecosystem of NGOs, policy networks, contractors, and more. How can Americans follow the money and hold these people accountable for how they impact our everyday lives?

Jennica Pounds, better known as ‘DataRepublican’ and co-author of Unelected: How the NGO-Administrative Complex Seized Power — And How to Get It Back, joins The Spectacle Podcast hosts Melissa Mackenzie and Scott McKay. Jennica shares insight into her book as well as her thoughts on the effectiveness of DOGE and the consequences of USAID. They also discuss artificial intelligence and the influence of companies like Anthropic — with Jennica’s concern with effective altruism.

Tune in to hear their discussion!