Did Michele Bachmann See This Before She Blew Up The Gardasil Controversy?
There are some things beyond “little 12-year old girls,” “government injections” and allegations of crony capitalism.
Perry has already said he had it wrong trying to mandate Gardasil vaccinations without a legislative debate. But it’s a bit more complicated than cute political narratives and attention-grabbing debate attacks.
The “I’m a mom, so I’m untouchable” thing Bachmann pulled was irritating. The “I met somebody off stage who just told me her 12-year old kid became retarded because of Gardasil” thing she pulled after the debate was worse – you can’t become retarded from Gardasil; that happens at a far earlier stage than 12 years old. You could maybe get brain damage from it, but there sure isn’t a lot of evidence it causes brain damage. And strangely enough, Bachmann hasn’t quite explained why she didn’t express the same outrage about the Hepatitis-B vaccine mandate in Minnesota which didn’t have an opt-out at all.
But if Bachmann wants to throw out anecdotes, Perry can do that as well. Like, for example, this one…
The Gardasil controversy is vastly overblown. Perry’s vaccination order was never actually implemented, and it had an opt-out. He loses to Romney due to that? Really? A never-implemented vaccination order, compared to a fully-implemented Romneycare? Seems like Republicans will pick the lesser of evils on that one.
But in any event, there is at least some personal reason behind why Perry wanted to do something about HPV and cervical cancer. Call it a moment of weakness if you want. But he’s a bit more sympathetic than the half-crazed woman offering kooky anti-vaccine paranoia.
And by the way, Sarah Palin really ought to shut the hell up about Gardasil, since her policy as Alaska’s governor is hardly defensible by the standard she attempts to impose on Perry.
Thanks to Ace Of Spades, who has done outstanding work on the Gardasil controversy and the ridiculous hype the attention-junkies in the 2012 field have given it.
Bachmann jumped the shark. Too bad. She seemed to have so much going for her.
Charlie
[...] most rabid of them was Bachmann, who clearly hurt herself in that debate based on the poll. Mason-Dixon’s survey had her at [...]
Wouldn’t it be easier if government just stayed the hell out of the role of mandating our bodies altogether?
[...] Did Michele Bachmann See This Before She Blew Up The Gardasil Controversy? The Gardasil controversy is vastly overblown. Perry’s vaccination order was never actually implemented, and it had an opt-out. He loses to Romney due to that? Really? A never-implemented vaccination order, compared to a fully-implemented Romneycare? Seems like Republicans will pick the lesser of evils on that one. [...]
It’s interesting you didn’t call Perry on the carpet for claiming he only got $5,000 in contributions from Tommey, when it appears he got so much more. STD’s would be avoided if people would live according to God’s plan…virtuously and chaste. I know I’m in the minority, but that is indeed the fundamental problem of STD’s. I don’t know if Michelle Bachmann has this principle underlying her approach. I do agree though just throwing out a wild stat like somebody’s word of how it affected their child is sloppy. I appreciate that Perry admitted his mistake, which I believe it was, and I thought Mitt Romney was a true leader and good teammate to defend Perry for doing so.
The question isn’t whether folks shouldn’t engage in indiscriminate sex. They shouldn’t.
The question is whether you should get cancer for having had it when there’s a way to keep that from happening.
And the point of the piece in Houston is that Perry, who has zero trouble raising money from pretty much any business in Texas, was motivated by a personal story of a real human being he met to push the Gardasil vaccine. The crony capitalism play simply doesn’t fly here.
The simple fact is that not everyone believes in God or even if they do still behave like humans. One in four American teenagers has a sexually transmitted disease. The chastity program was ineffective and did not reduce pregnancy or premarital sex and lessened the use of contraception when they did eventually do what they had promised not to do. I like the Arabic phrase of ” believe in Allah but tie up your camel.” You might not like what people do but they do it so you have to deal with it.
I would Not Vote for Rick Perry if he was the only man running in 2012 election!1
first he does this to young girls and he is not even in the White House yet!
second he wants to take Social Security away from the Seniors after they worked all their lifes to get it!
he calls Social Security a Disease!
I hope every one agrees with me!
He actually didn’t do anything to young girls. The vaccinations were never implemented because Perry listened to the voters.
And Perry hasn’t called for taking Social Security away from seniors. That’s a lie. He says the program will have to change for younger folks because it’s unsustainable.
Get your facts straight.
Are you daft? Perry didn’t do anything to young girls. As Mac stated, the program was never implemented. Secondly, while Perry does want to reform Social Security, he has made it clear that he has no intention of changing the program for those receiving or about to begin receiving the funds. You need to educate yourself on the facts before you get to the ballot box.
Having said that, I’d still rather see Ron Paul in office!
In the 50s and 60s the government
didn’t recall the contaminated (SV40) polio vaccine. My state must
have been one of several states that received the contaminated
vaccine. The children that received it had a increase in 4 types of
cancer (bone, brain, lymphomas, mesothelioma).My cousin died of a
bone cancer. My brother died of a brain tumor. I have survived
lymphoma. I was scheduled to receive vaccines a year after my bone
marrow transplant and refused to take any vaccines. People should
have a choice to refuse any vaccine(s).There are many questions I have
about vaccines. I am not a “half-crazed woman”. It is anti-SCIENCE to NOT question the facts on
vaccines. Thank you, Michele Bachmann. Maybe my cousin and my
brother would be alive today if we had people brave enough to
question the establishment.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/279/4/292
This is the article which provides the evidence that there is no link between the vaccine and the disease. It is what is called in the scientific community “coincidence”. Everyone had the vaccine therefor it must have been the cause – eh…no. It is the same as saying it was due to watching tv or drinking milk.
There are still those that believe the MMR autism rubbish in spite of it being systematically taken apart as utter fraud and the most ridiculous manipulation.
If ever you want a collection of pseudo scientific gobeldy goop raise the issue of vaccination. No one ever seems to raise the issue of disease. ‘Im sure the tens of millions who die every year in thew third world would love to be protected from these dangerous vaccines.
Merck said DEAD Particle on the Poster sent to Schools in Oregon for the Gardasil Vaccine
Looks real Legal to:
Internet search (Dead Particle) thats related to the HPV in vaccine( in science is DORMANT Particle), like a spore that grows later.
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Not all testing was completed in Gardasil is stated by Merck was completed
2
Acquired Immunity is required to the disease that a vaccine is made for
A part of this acquired immunity is in the vaccine and the germ so the Acquired immunity is MADE
3
NO MSDS is made for Gardasil ST CLOUD UNIVERSITY search GOOGLE on site search MSDS GARDASIL a letter from MERCK at the end states BULL their is no MSDS for BULL
4
CDC and FDA did not follow Regulations in not all testing completed in Gardasil as for all HPV Vaccines
5
Terrorist
6
if they
MADE YOU BELEIVE, IN THE BEST, FOR ALL, IN GETTING YOU,
TO BELEIVE IN THEMFOR gardasil
Would not they
come up with a computer program that is animated of some who disappear
To animate for News or Politics
Get them to say what they would want them to say
That is all they would have to do to make
Martial Law on the Mandate for HPV Vaccines
7
How could they even be daydreaming Mandate HPV Vaccines
8
Merck makes up anything to justify
” merck ” says “Artificial Immunity”
9
What is that never heard of it
That Bull
Gets people confused
10
HPV Vaccines are illegal
regulations declare “That if Regulations are not followed CDC and FDA cannot make legal”
They didnot follow Regulations
Get Real
Your in big Trouble
always MAKE APPEARANCES
if hes not here thats what People need to see
is all I can think of to protect yourself
A little proofreading would make for a lot better case. And a better handle will keep you from getting banned.
Merck said DEAD Particle on the Poster sent to Schools for the Gardasil Vaccine
Looks real Legal to:
Internet search (Dead Particle) thats related to the HPV in vaccine( in science is DORMANT Particle), like a spore that grows later.
1
Not all testing was completed in Gardasil is stated by Merck was completed
2
Acquired Immunity is required to the disease that a vaccine is made for
A part of this acquired immunity is in the vaccine and the germ so the Acquired immunity is MADE
3
NO MSDS is made for Gardasil ST CLOUD UNIVERSITY search GOOGLE on site search MSDS GARDASIL a letter from MERCK at the end states BULL their is no MSDS for BULL
4
CDC and FDA did not follow Regulations in not all testing completed in Gardasil as for all HPV Vaccines
5
Terrorist
6
if they
MADE YOU BELEIVE, IN THE BEST, FOR ALL, IN GETTING YOU,
TO BELEIVE IN THEMFOR gardasil
Would not they
come up with a computer program that is animated of some who disappear
To animate for News or Politics
Get them to say what they would want them to say
That is all they would have to do to make
Martial Law on the Mandate for HPV Vaccines
7
How could they even be daydreaming Mandate HPV Vaccines
8
Merck makes up anything to justify
” merck ” says “Artificial Immunity”
9
What is that never heard of it
That Bull
Gets people confused
10
HPV Vaccines are illegal
regulations declare “That if Regulations are not followed CDC and FDA cannot make legal”
They didnot follow Regulations
Get Real
Your in big Trouble
always MAKE APPEARANCES
if hes not here thats what People need to see
is all I can think of to protect yourself