Is there really such a thing as the Grays, Nordics, Lizard People, and Insectoids? The recent release of UAP files from the Trump administration aims to be transparent with the people, but it has left conspiracy theorists and the curious with more questions.

The Spectacle Podcast hosts Melissa Mackenzie and Scott McKay express skepticism about the UAP files, explaining the lack of scientific rigor in UFO studies. Melissa and Scott talk about spiritual beings that roam this earth — namely, angels and demons. They also talk about Hollywood’s role in amplifying the existence of other beings, like hit movies The Martian and Project Hail Mary. Tune in to hear their discussion!