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Remember How Awesome It Is That Pre-Existing Conditions Get Covered In O’care?

Remember How Awesome It Is That Pre-Existing Conditions Get Covered In O’care?
October 02
09:53 2013

This is what that looks like. From a comment on the Obamacare Facebook page

At least that happy customer made it that far. Most of the comments you’ll see are like this, with an entertaining response…

  • Gail Pierson Have been trying to create an account since 3 AM. No Luck!
  • Hi Gail, first of all…. love your enthusiasm. Since 3 AM? That’s some excitement!  Thank you for sharing your issue with us, please know that we are working to address this issue as soon as possible.

Another example…

  • Sarah McMahon Snider Apparently I am unable to see any information on plans until I create an account. Can’t create an account because the Security Questions fields are not populated so unable to go any further. All I want to see are the plans so I can compare to what I already have.

And more…

  • Randeep Walia Wait, did you mean to say go to NOW, or did you really intend to say, “don’t go to at all because it’s not working and you’ll only waste valuable time trying to sign up on a website that doesn’t work”?

We got a kick out of this one…

  • Rusty Kilpatrick Jr What kind of rookie rolls out a website, expected to be used by millions of people, at one time without proper infrastructure? Either make it available in waves or beef up the back end. You’re trying to win people over not piss them off. Way to drop the ball.

The president shrugged all this off by referencing Apple’s glitches.

Apple at least had some successes in serving the public. Obamacare has built up no such goodwill.

One wonders how the performance of Obamacare’s internet exchanges will play given the Democrats’ objections to funding the parts of the government which aren’t affected by the current debate. At some point, if you’re Obama or Harry Reid you start to run the risk of looking like an idiot for insisting on a government shutdown and barricading open-air monuments like the World War II Memorial so as to protect something which for all outward appearances is a market failure on the order of New Coke and Windows 8?

At Ace of Spades, they’re calling it 404Care, which is perfect. So is this.

For all the screaming about how terrible the shutdown is, the Republicans are actually in a pretty good position right now. They can keep sending up bills to alleviate the worst effects of the shutdown and watch the Democrats either accede to them, as they did with military pay on Monday, or stand in the schoolhouse door.

And it’s Democrats who have a unity problem. From a piece at The Hill on yesterday’s House votes on funding the District of Columbia, the parks and the VA…

Nonetheless, the failed House votes will once again require Republican leaders to figure out the next step. One option is bringing them up under a regular order later in the week, which would allow them to easily pass in a simple majority vote.

Today, Republicans brought up the resolutions under a suspension of House rules, which required a two-thirds majority vote. While that led to the failed votes, it will let Republicans argue that House Democrats are the ones in the way of funding these specific priorities.

The closest vote for Democrats was on a resolution to fund the District of Columbia — that proposal drew support from 34 Democrats, although it still fell short of a two-thirds majority and failed in a 265-163 vote.

Washington DC is in the unique position of needing congressional approval for its budget, even though the money it spends is raised within the District. That reality, and a plea from Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), seemed to prompt some Democrats to vote for it.

Norton herself said she was torn on the vote, because while she had to support the DC funding bill, she realized other Democrats were opposing the GOP’s plan to pass piecemeal resolutions.

“It puts me in an impossible position,” she said. “I have a greater number of federal employees than any part of this region, and of course because I must support this piecemeal approach, I’m leaving them behind. But what am I to do?”

“I am asking, keep the district open. Don’t dare compare us to your appropriations,” she pleaded.

The House also turned away a resolution to fund the Department of Veterans Affairs, in a 264-164 vote that won 33 Democrats. Here again, Republicans questioned how Democrats could vote against legislation they would normally support.

“I’m shocked to hear our friends on the other side of the aisle who are unwilling to help our veterans receive the benefits that they have earned,” said House Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers (R-Ky.).

As they did with other bills, Democrats insisted that they support the goals of the bill, but not the tactics.

“Of course we support funding for our veterans. The proper way to do that… is to fulfill our constitutional responsibility, make the hard decisions, pass regular appropriations bills.”

A third resolution would have funded the national parks, the Smithsonian museums, and the Holocaust Museum. This proposal failed 252-176 and won 22 Democratic votes.

Who looks like they want a shutdown here? Republicans are voting to keep the government open, some Democrats agree, and Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the gang are trying to stop them while demanding a “clean” CR funding Obamacare.

Well, guess what? All federal government funding originates in the House.

That means the House decides what money is spent and what money isn’t. If the House doesn’t support Obamacare, there is no Obamacare. That’s not partisan politics, it’s institutional politics. It’s called the separation of powers, and it is PRECISELY how the Founders intended the country to work.

This is what happens when you jam an unpopular law creating a new federal bureaucracy through Congress on a straight party-line vote. It was a stupid thing for Obama, Pelosi and Reid to do, it was an abuse of power for them to do it and the price to be paid is the loss of the Congressional body which is in control of enacting that law through funding.

The House is exercising its constitutional prerogative in deciding what is to be funded and what is not to be funded. It is the Senate and the president who are to blame for shutting down the government. And we’re now seeing that the Senate and the president are shutting down the government in order to continue forcing on the public something the market would kill with gusto were it subject to market forces.

That is no position to be in. It’s a political problem for Obama and Reid which will only be solved if the Republicans lose their nerve.

UPDATE: We found something else worth passing along as well…

And the story behind the image…

LMAO!!! I finally got through to and here is the GREAT DEAL I have to choose from.
Monthly Premium is $839.25
My Current Premium is $348.00

Deductable is $5,000 per person…$10,000 for family
Current Dectuble is $500 per person $1000 for family

I also have an option for a $1,834 premium with a $2,000 deductable.

My current health insurance will go up this month because of obozocare but no where near this BS.

GOOD LUCK SUCKERS!!!! Cheaper than cell phone bill…LMAO

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  1. Lee Williamson
    Lee Williamson October 02, 21:03

    All you Obo lovers got so hot and bothered when those who actually use their brains kept telling you this was going to be a disaster and that costs were going up, and this was a trap, and you would not listen. All the government reports, statistics, and LOGIC said this would be a disaster, but you could not get past your blind emotional hatred of those who kept giving the warnings. You thought they were just being haters, racists, etc. when they kept telling you that you REALLY REALLY did not want this law, but your blindness would not let you see. You kept listening to those who allegedly cared about you and said this would be good for you. Now you own it. You did it. You get it. Unfortunately, your fragile egos will not let you admit you were wrong. Now you got not what you wanted, or what you THOUGHT you wanted, but what you deserve. Good luck comrades. maybe you will wake up from your obo-care induced stupor to vote the morons out who gave you what you deserve so we can fix this crap once and for all. Pray to God you wake up and start using your brains again to realize that Obo, Holder, Pelosi, Reid, and all those who support them care not about you, but care only about their own hides and growing the size of government to intrude more and more into your lives.

  2. Anonymous
    Anonymous October 02, 21:50

    Hell will be filled w/ those content to go to hell liberals who foisted that trash on us. They'll agree w/ us then but too little too late.

  3. Craig Williams
    Craig Williams October 03, 01:42

    And this is the insurance that the demo's are so proud of and 30 million people who've never had insurance can finally have it. Who's paying their premium and deductible? They are saying WTF i'm going to the ER like I have been and I ain't buying no damn insurance.. REALITY

  4. Marshall Aren
    Marshall Aren October 03, 16:30

    Wow, Lee….One day of technical glitches and a bunch of made up BS and you're convinced the health care program s a failure…..I guess you sure showed all us stupid people……Good to hear the voice of objectivity is alive and well…….

  5. Sikander Khan
    Sikander Khan October 03, 16:48

    When you say stuff like "obo-lover" you basically come off as a huge tool that nobody wants to listen to. If you have a point, make it without acting like a 3rd grader.

  6. James C Whitfield
    James C Whitfield October 03, 16:50

    I Know someone on Disability and has coverage but can get there Wife covered, She dosnt work du to Medical problems but cant get Disability. She got Offer for $250 with all Kindes of Co-pays and another for $325 and Co-pays—Botom line is how can she pay it every month on his Disability check…

  7. Mat Larson
    Mat Larson October 03, 17:08

    Marshall, they've had 3+ years to set this up. The systems are not working well, with frequent outages. When you can get through the system, you get quotes worse than what you have, assuming your plan hasn't been canceled already.

    What are you defending?

  8. Mardis Salem
    Mardis Salem October 03, 17:49

    I'm uninsured at this time due to pre-existing conditions, and will remain uninsured. Signing up at exchanges won't help me. Health insurance premiums will take all of my so called "expendable extra income". It's laughable because my expendable income goes for food, bills, housing. That's it!

  9. Chris Sarris
    Chris Sarris October 03, 18:07

    the type1 diabetic above can choose a different plan.. he had no insurance to begin with.. what he would be paying at that level is a lot less than what it would cost to pay for insulin straight up and test strips per month.. and there's other healthcare plans out there.. you don't have purchase the gov't one..

  10. Kelly Anderson Wright
    Kelly Anderson Wright October 03, 20:30

    Sikander Khan "Obo-lover" didn't turn ME off at all! I read every word and agree with Lee. I would have used "BO Lover," tho, but I'd still listen to what Lee had to say, without the mudslinging, SK, because heck, Libs call ME nasty names each and every day, including "racist" and "bigot," yet I still listen to them (and you obviously), even though they can't seem to see my brown son. DOH! Enjoy your Odummercare, Sick Khan.

  11. Kelly Anderson Wright
    Kelly Anderson Wright October 03, 20:35

    Well, a certain percentage will get about 75% of their premiums subsidized by We the Taxpaying People with Jobs, so their costs will be about the same as I currently get on the private insurance market (I am self-employed). You'll still have to pay for insurance, unless you qualify for Medicaid, which you'll find out after you fill input 42 pages of sensitive info you might not want the IRS to have, frankly. And the only way you can find out if you REALLY qualify for a subsidy is if you fill out all 42 pages… so good luck with that suckahs!

  12. Kelly Anderson Wright
    Kelly Anderson Wright October 03, 20:39

    James, if he is on SSDI and she can't work, she may qualify for Medicaid in the
    new exchanges. It might be worth it to fill out the 42 pages to see if she qualifies, because Medicaid would be HER best option. I'm assuming he is on Medicare, since folks on SSDI qualify for Medicare after 2 years regardless of age.

  13. Kelly Anderson Wright
    Kelly Anderson Wright October 03, 21:28

    However… illegals can't sign up for this insurance, so THEY'LL still flood our ERs and incur health care costs that WE pay for, through higher premiums and health care charges ($10 bandaids, etc.), remember that!

  14. Kelly Anderson Wright
    Kelly Anderson Wright October 03, 21:28

    However… illegals can't sign up for this insurance, so THEY'LL still flood our ERs and incur health care costs that WE pay for, through higher premiums and health care charges ($10 bandaids, etc.), remember that!

  15. Christopher
    Christopher October 03, 22:18

    From someone who has a career in IT I can most assuredly tell you this program is an abject failure from that perspective, pricing plans notwithstanding.

  16. Jason Kwiatkowski
    Jason Kwiatkowski October 04, 01:09

    Tea-turd Troll!

  17. Jason Kwiatkowski
    Jason Kwiatkowski October 04, 01:09

    Tea-turd Troll!

  18. Jason Kwiatkowski
    Jason Kwiatkowski October 04, 01:09

    Tea-turd Troll!

  19. Deanna Lightner
    Deanna Lightner October 04, 01:10

    Sure he could the different plans.. Right!!! NOT!!! My company went through in the 1 year I was there before they closed! Gave me 2 count them 2 pay the premiums but exempted me for coverage! Because I am a type 2 diabetic they would NOT insure me so i was YES uninsured and i got to pay for it as it was only going to be for 6 months hahaha they changed "companies" But we all know Blue shield and Regency are the same company…. But of course YOU think you can buy insurance… YOU CANT!!!! As far as Odumbo's plan goes well, I too will stay uninsured because I don't get enough money to PAY rent let alone health insurance and the co-pays for office visits, insulin, test strips, and other medically needed medications ….so yeah good luck with that! Obviously you have no preexisting condition. If you did you would understand. These preexisting conditions include heart disease, diabetes, mental health, CANCER… Yeah.. good luck folks and God Bless you all!

  20. Scott Gouge
    Scott Gouge October 04, 02:34

    While Mr WIlliamson has some valid points, he fails to realize both parties are corrupt and out of control, merely voting in Republicans will not fix the mess our nation is in.

  21. Scott Gouge
    Scott Gouge October 04, 02:35

    He DID have one salient comment: we need to pray to GOD and return to GOD and do the things GOD commands in order to be BLESSED. then and only then will GOD fix this.

  22. Colin O'Connor
    Colin O'Connor October 04, 03:56

    Right, but he wasn't being penalized thousands of dollars for not having insurance before.

  23. Tabby Dowling
    Tabby Dowling October 04, 08:19

    And you call others stupid. It's been a failure since the beginning. I would love to see how much you are going to be paying.

  24. Tabby Dowling
    Tabby Dowling October 04, 08:20

    God isn't going to fix this. If God existed, he would have placed people in the way to actually stop it and it would have been stopped before it happened.

  25. Tabby Dowling
    Tabby Dowling October 04, 08:20

    It's called, FACTS, retard. I would love to see how much you are going to be paying.

  26. Natassia Grover
    Natassia Grover October 04, 17:41

    God did, Tabby. And the Democratic voters called them hateful for doing so. God isn't going to make people see the light.

  27. Joe Cicalese
    Joe Cicalese October 04, 19:55

    How much does this person think coverage would cost if they bought insurance outright? And how much would they lose if they had to get emergency procedures performed without any insurance? I can't believe the ACA debate comes down to "most people would just rather be sick than have insurance".

  28. Brandon Helvie
    Brandon Helvie October 04, 21:35

    I'd be wary of information you have not verified yourself.

    Sign up, see what your numbers are.

  29. Buddy Lebowski
    Buddy Lebowski October 04, 21:43

    It's easy Joe…. A high deductible plan that covers for the big stuff is all most ppl really need, but that would still get you a fine….I can pay $120 a month for that and save hundreds. I can take those hundreds and say….. save it? HSA? IRA? AFA hurts anybody who is responsible.

  30. Serge Sviridenko
    Serge Sviridenko October 05, 01:58

    Kelly Anderson Wright Funny how every time you disagree with a minority, you're labeled as a racist. Sad but true.

  31. Serge Sviridenko
    Serge Sviridenko October 05, 01:58

    Kelly Anderson Wright Funny how every time you disagree with a minority, you're labeled as a racist. Sad but true.

  32. Comment Troll
    Comment Troll October 09, 13:55

    Mat Larson you know it does take time to 1) source contractors 2) get the work performed 3) perform testing 4) develop security standards and protocols 5) ensure there is sufficient funding when the GOP is constantly trying to defund…

    Thinking must be hard for ya or you have no clue and just rant

  33. Comment Troll
    Comment Troll October 09, 13:56

    Mardis Salem Why should I have to pay for you when you end up in the emergency room? Pay for your damn self.

  34. Comment Troll
    Comment Troll October 09, 13:56

    That's why there are tax credits – and if we go down the tea party thinking line… why should I have to pay for your problem of not having enough money to care for yourself?

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